So, we are down to the next-to-the-last week -- RIVALRY WEEK -- as the media likes to call it.
Reminder for those of you in the Yahoo group: there are noon Friday games (2), and more Friday afternoon, so don't forget to do your picks early enough.
This is a tough week to pick. I've been doing my homework and here's what I have learned about the big games --
Michigan v. Ohio State? The line is "pick 'em"; the ESPN Big10 Bloggers are split 3-3 on it.
Iowa v. Nebraska? It's all of 1.5 Iowa and the bloggers are 4-2 on Iowa. Massive!
UCLA v. USC? It's USC by 3.5 on the spread, but the Bloggers have it 3-2 UCLA. Helpful?
Stanford v. Notre Dame? Pure clarity with Stanford 3.5 favs & a solid (#irony) 3-2 vote for them. Whew!
Baylor v. TCU? Baylor by 1.5 and 2-1 votes for them!!! Wa-la!
OU & Oak State? OU by 7 (on the road!) with the Bloggers unanimous at 3-0! I'm not sure why, but that looks to be the clearest choice. They are both 10-1 and it's in Stillwater. What's with that??!!?
In SEC, LSU v TA&M? Somehow LSU, who seems about to fire their coach, is 5.5 favorites, and 3-2 among the bloggers. I guess I have to believe them, and A&M hasn't looked good, either, but this is the vaunted SEC West? Two crippled, dysfunctional teams you can't pick?
Ol' Miss v. Miss. State? The Rebs are 1 point favorites on the road, but State is 4-1 among the "experts." Huh?
Florida v Florida State (the Sem-holes)? State is 2.5 favorites and 4 of 5 pick them. I guess being the SEC East champ isn't that impressive. But they haven't shown any offense the last few weeks.
It's going to be a tough weekend of picks.
Which makes next week's F4 picks interesting. The most likely loser among the top 5 is Iowa, which would change the Big10's chances A LOT. Even if Michigan St. beats them then, it might not help their cause enough.
On the other hand, Notre Dame is expected to lose, too. Who moves up? Baylor? Ohio State (who is supposed to lose)?
Clemson, Alabama...Oklahoma? Michigan State?
Well, there's two weeks to go. The wild ride continues.
Wednesday, November 25, 2015
Monday, November 9, 2015
Week 2 of CFP Rankings (Week 10 of playing): Revising After the Losses -- Clemson solidifies
I will have to admit it -- three of my top four last week lost. Of course, MY final four wasn't the committee's final four, so they only had one loser -- #2 LSU to #4 Alabama.
But, despite that, I'm going to stick with my theory: if the regular season means anything, undefeated teams HAVE to get more respect than one-loss teams, even if they are Alabama and Notre Dame.
So, this week I'm going to go "homer" (as the saying goes, at one point my kid and my money went to OSU) and jump the Pokes from nowhere to the top four.
But I'm conceding: Alabama deserves a spot. Replacing LSU. Let's be honest, unless the SEC has a two-loss team, they are going to have a representative. And the most likely scenario is that Florida either gets through with just one loss (will they lose to FSU?), or loses to a one-loss west team in the SEC championship. In other words, the SEC gets in. Period.
Clemson is good (in terms of the playoff). Saturday's win over FSU wasn't dominating, but it was a win and plenty good enough -- no flukes like the MSU over Michigan, the Duke loss to Miami, or the Nebraska win over MSU (is that turnabout?). They deserve the #1 slot.
Next, Ohio State became the Big Ten rep based on MSU's loss. They still haven't looked good and we still don't know who really should play quarterback for them. But they are undefeated. Their biggest tests are ahead of them -- though MSU looks like a bit less of a test (though a de facto division championship) after laying an egg against Nebraska.
Third, I'm going Pokes. The Alabama win over LSU was the biggest win of the weekend, but Ok State's win over TCU was a close second best. TCU was undefeated and a big favorite; Bama was the favorite in their game. Their strength of schedule is top ten at this point (Mike & Mike quoted it as 2nd, though I can't find anything that good) and the TCU win is second only to Bama's win over LSU as the best win on the board this season.
Fourth, as I indicated, is Bama. They beat LSU badly; though I still wonder how they lost to an Ol' Miss AT HOME, an Ol' Miss team that has now lost 3 games. That's looking less and less like a "good loss," since they have to play LSU & Miss State yet.
Waiting in the wings are (in this order): Baylor (who didn't look good Thurs night v. K-State and plays an Oklahoma team that might give them a lot of trouble, even in Waco); Iowa, who is undefeated, yet hasn't beaten anyone of note, but controls their own destiny, especially the Big 10 championship against either Ohio St or MSU (probably); Notre Dame, whose schedule doesn't look as tough as it did before the season (Ga Tech isn't good at all), but who has good wins against USC, Pitt and Stanford (assuming they beat them, see momentarily); Stanford and Utah, one of which may end up winning the PAC-12 with 1-loss (see Stanford-ND game); don't forget Michigan St, TCU, and Oklahoma, all with one loss but good teams ahead who they could beat (OU has the trifecta of Baylor, TCU and Ok St yet) and move to the top of the pack.
Again, the caveat is: there are a lot of games to be played and they'll shake a lot of this out. In the end, it may be simpler after Dec. 5th, but it may be more complicated (fewer undefeated teams, but tougher to separate one-loss teams). Let's all enjoy the ride.
And, go Pokes!
But, despite that, I'm going to stick with my theory: if the regular season means anything, undefeated teams HAVE to get more respect than one-loss teams, even if they are Alabama and Notre Dame.
So, this week I'm going to go "homer" (as the saying goes, at one point my kid and my money went to OSU) and jump the Pokes from nowhere to the top four.
But I'm conceding: Alabama deserves a spot. Replacing LSU. Let's be honest, unless the SEC has a two-loss team, they are going to have a representative. And the most likely scenario is that Florida either gets through with just one loss (will they lose to FSU?), or loses to a one-loss west team in the SEC championship. In other words, the SEC gets in. Period.
Clemson is good (in terms of the playoff). Saturday's win over FSU wasn't dominating, but it was a win and plenty good enough -- no flukes like the MSU over Michigan, the Duke loss to Miami, or the Nebraska win over MSU (is that turnabout?). They deserve the #1 slot.
Next, Ohio State became the Big Ten rep based on MSU's loss. They still haven't looked good and we still don't know who really should play quarterback for them. But they are undefeated. Their biggest tests are ahead of them -- though MSU looks like a bit less of a test (though a de facto division championship) after laying an egg against Nebraska.
Third, I'm going Pokes. The Alabama win over LSU was the biggest win of the weekend, but Ok State's win over TCU was a close second best. TCU was undefeated and a big favorite; Bama was the favorite in their game. Their strength of schedule is top ten at this point (Mike & Mike quoted it as 2nd, though I can't find anything that good) and the TCU win is second only to Bama's win over LSU as the best win on the board this season.
Fourth, as I indicated, is Bama. They beat LSU badly; though I still wonder how they lost to an Ol' Miss AT HOME, an Ol' Miss team that has now lost 3 games. That's looking less and less like a "good loss," since they have to play LSU & Miss State yet.
Waiting in the wings are (in this order): Baylor (who didn't look good Thurs night v. K-State and plays an Oklahoma team that might give them a lot of trouble, even in Waco); Iowa, who is undefeated, yet hasn't beaten anyone of note, but controls their own destiny, especially the Big 10 championship against either Ohio St or MSU (probably); Notre Dame, whose schedule doesn't look as tough as it did before the season (Ga Tech isn't good at all), but who has good wins against USC, Pitt and Stanford (assuming they beat them, see momentarily); Stanford and Utah, one of which may end up winning the PAC-12 with 1-loss (see Stanford-ND game); don't forget Michigan St, TCU, and Oklahoma, all with one loss but good teams ahead who they could beat (OU has the trifecta of Baylor, TCU and Ok St yet) and move to the top of the pack.
Again, the caveat is: there are a lot of games to be played and they'll shake a lot of this out. In the end, it may be simpler after Dec. 5th, but it may be more complicated (fewer undefeated teams, but tougher to separate one-loss teams). Let's all enjoy the ride.
And, go Pokes!
Tuesday, November 3, 2015
CFP Week 1 (again): Who Should be in the First Final 4
So, tonight is the FBS committee's first rankings for the 2016 championship playoff.
Before they come out, I will make my call on who SHOULD be in the first final four. Note: this is NOT a prediction of who should be in the last one (a whole different thing), but a snapshot of now.
First off, let's get this straight: no one-loss team deserves in the F4 when there would now be 4 power 5 conferences with undefeated teams. So, our current F4 should come from this group: LSU, TCU, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Iowa, Ohio State, Michigan State, and Clemson.
Easy enough -- LSU & Clemson are in.
Who else? Now?
I think Michigan State is #2, based on their record. I heard on a radio show this morning that "only LSU has beaten two teams in the Top 25" -- well, Sparty beat #7 Oregon in the second game and then #12 Michigan. So, what gives?
Based on those two wins, they deserve a slot.
Fourth? TCU. Based on wins over Minnesota (a modestly decent team) and Kansas St, Texas and West Virginia, the middling teams in Big 12, they have the best resume of the B12 threesome.
But I won't count on that much. This week's Oak State-TCU game will tell us a lot.
I will say here what will be said ad nauseum (till you're sick) these next few days: there are a lot of games left that will thin the herd, to the point where one suspects we'll be talking about which one-loss team (or teams) should be in the F4. But, for now, it's those four undefeateds on top.
Stay tune for next week and more comments. Go Purdue! (I have to keep trying)
Before they come out, I will make my call on who SHOULD be in the first final four. Note: this is NOT a prediction of who should be in the last one (a whole different thing), but a snapshot of now.
First off, let's get this straight: no one-loss team deserves in the F4 when there would now be 4 power 5 conferences with undefeated teams. So, our current F4 should come from this group: LSU, TCU, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Iowa, Ohio State, Michigan State, and Clemson.
Easy enough -- LSU & Clemson are in.
Who else? Now?
I think Michigan State is #2, based on their record. I heard on a radio show this morning that "only LSU has beaten two teams in the Top 25" -- well, Sparty beat #7 Oregon in the second game and then #12 Michigan. So, what gives?
Based on those two wins, they deserve a slot.
Fourth? TCU. Based on wins over Minnesota (a modestly decent team) and Kansas St, Texas and West Virginia, the middling teams in Big 12, they have the best resume of the B12 threesome.
But I won't count on that much. This week's Oak State-TCU game will tell us a lot.
I will say here what will be said ad nauseum (till you're sick) these next few days: there are a lot of games left that will thin the herd, to the point where one suspects we'll be talking about which one-loss team (or teams) should be in the F4. But, for now, it's those four undefeateds on top.
Stay tune for next week and more comments. Go Purdue! (I have to keep trying)
Tuesday, March 3, 2015
Big Ten Hoops: The Stretch Drive
Today's ESPN Bubblewatch opens with the strength of the Big Ten and ends with "It's not the best league, not by a long shot. The next two weeks, though, it might just be the most fun."
True dat!
The B10, or somehow it's become the B1G, is now the league with the most "bids" in everyone's bracketology. Jerry Palm at CBS has them set with 8 teams -- which would be a high for the league -- where Lunardi at ESPN (if not a B10 hater, very much an ACC lover) has 7 with Illinois in the next group in.
If you don't have them memorized, that's Wisconsin, Maryland, Purdue, Michigan St, Ohio St, Iowa, Indiana, and Illinois.
With two conference games left and the tourney, this should be fun.
Let's admit it: Wisconsin is the class of the league. And with their win over the Badgers last week, Maryland established themselves as clear #2 -- a loss would have left them in a tie with Purdue for 2nd.
Maryland and Purdue have been surprises -- MD was picked 10th in preseason, having lost most of last year's starting team. Michigan St and Iowa have been something of disappointments.
Now comes crunch time. That Bubblewatch today says MSU, OSU & Iowa should be in, with Wisconsin and Maryland, but Purdue, IU and ILL have work to do. Since Purdue and Illinois finish in W. Lafayette on Saturday, that work will be head-to-head.
But, no matter what ESPN says, the B10 has a bunch of teams that could be playing the second weekend of the NCAAs. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if 4 or 5 B10 teams make the Sweet 16. As they say about such things, depends on how they play (will IU hit double-digit threes?) and the match ups (IU has no "big"; Purdue doesn't score well; Maryland isn't overly large, either), but after the grueling B10 season, the tournament may seem relaxing.
Here's your quick table for the end of season. Of course, the conference tourney pairings can change (and will) with the last two regular season games, but you can easily seeing a 12-6 Iowa team in the 3 hole, IU losing out to fall to 8th, and Purdue winning out to remain 3rd (don't bet on it), or losing out to fall to...6th? Wild times.
True dat!
The B10, or somehow it's become the B1G, is now the league with the most "bids" in everyone's bracketology. Jerry Palm at CBS has them set with 8 teams -- which would be a high for the league -- where Lunardi at ESPN (if not a B10 hater, very much an ACC lover) has 7 with Illinois in the next group in.
If you don't have them memorized, that's Wisconsin, Maryland, Purdue, Michigan St, Ohio St, Iowa, Indiana, and Illinois.
With two conference games left and the tourney, this should be fun.
Let's admit it: Wisconsin is the class of the league. And with their win over the Badgers last week, Maryland established themselves as clear #2 -- a loss would have left them in a tie with Purdue for 2nd.
Maryland and Purdue have been surprises -- MD was picked 10th in preseason, having lost most of last year's starting team. Michigan St and Iowa have been something of disappointments.
Now comes crunch time. That Bubblewatch today says MSU, OSU & Iowa should be in, with Wisconsin and Maryland, but Purdue, IU and ILL have work to do. Since Purdue and Illinois finish in W. Lafayette on Saturday, that work will be head-to-head.
But, no matter what ESPN says, the B10 has a bunch of teams that could be playing the second weekend of the NCAAs. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if 4 or 5 B10 teams make the Sweet 16. As they say about such things, depends on how they play (will IU hit double-digit threes?) and the match ups (IU has no "big"; Purdue doesn't score well; Maryland isn't overly large, either), but after the grueling B10 season, the tournament may seem relaxing.
Here's your quick table for the end of season. Of course, the conference tourney pairings can change (and will) with the last two regular season games, but you can easily seeing a 12-6 Iowa team in the 3 hole, IU losing out to fall to 8th, and Purdue winning out to remain 3rd (don't bet on it), or losing out to fall to...6th? Wild times.
| B10 Record | BPI | Games Left | 1st Game of B10 Tourney (If played today) | Current Seedings (CBS/ESPN) | |
| Maryland | 12-4 | 78 | RUT/NEB | IU/MN | 3/3 |
| Purdue | 11-5 | 75.3 | MSU/ILL | MSU or | 10/11 |
| Mich St | 10-6 | 80.3 | PU/IU | RUT/NW | 7/7 |
| Ohio St | 10-6 | 84.3 | PSU/WI | IA or | 8/7 |
| Iowa | 10-6 | 75.7 | IU/NW | PSU/NEB | 7/7 |
| Illinois | 8-8 | 72.2 | NEB/PU | MI | 11/x |
| Indiana | 9-7 | 74.1 | IA/MSU | MN | 7/10 |
Monday, November 17, 2014
B4 Week 4: Current Scenario has MSU in
I'm not waiting on tomorrow night's Committee revelation (by the way, why does it take them two days? what do they do, watch tape of every game?) -- to show the SEC lovers I'm not an SEC hater, I'm thinking both Alabama and Miss. St. make the CFP.
Why? This assumes both win out (the standard assumption). Florida State is undefeated, so they should go. Alabama wins the SEC with 1-loss -- they should go. Who next? Oregon wins the Pac-12 with 1-loss, including wins over Mich St, Arizona St or UCLA in Pac-12 championship, etc. They should go.
Who's next? Miss St, if they beat Ol' Miss, have a fistful of T25 wins. Including possibly that one. Who has TCU beaten? Baylor? Ohio St?
ESPN's power ranking has MSU 4th. That's probably right. And if they win out, they deserve to be in F4.
IF!
However, I doubt if "win out" is what all these teams do. I suspect of the hopefuls at least two of them lose -- Alabama to Auburn or Georgia, Fl St to someone in the ACC championship game (or even Florida?), Oregon to Oregon St in the Apple Bowl or UCLA or AZ St, Baylor to K-State? TCU to Texas Thanksgiving weekend? Ohio St to either Michigan (though Brady Hoke has never beaten them) or to Wisconsin (clearly the king of the west today) in B10 championship game.
So, this week, my prediction is for the F4 is Alabama, Miss State, TCU and Florida State.
Why? This assumes both win out (the standard assumption). Florida State is undefeated, so they should go. Alabama wins the SEC with 1-loss -- they should go. Who next? Oregon wins the Pac-12 with 1-loss, including wins over Mich St, Arizona St or UCLA in Pac-12 championship, etc. They should go.
Who's next? Miss St, if they beat Ol' Miss, have a fistful of T25 wins. Including possibly that one. Who has TCU beaten? Baylor? Ohio St?
ESPN's power ranking has MSU 4th. That's probably right. And if they win out, they deserve to be in F4.
IF!
However, I doubt if "win out" is what all these teams do. I suspect of the hopefuls at least two of them lose -- Alabama to Auburn or Georgia, Fl St to someone in the ACC championship game (or even Florida?), Oregon to Oregon St in the Apple Bowl or UCLA or AZ St, Baylor to K-State? TCU to Texas Thanksgiving weekend? Ohio St to either Michigan (though Brady Hoke has never beaten them) or to Wisconsin (clearly the king of the west today) in B10 championship game.
So, this week, my prediction is for the F4 is Alabama, Miss State, TCU and Florida State.
Thursday, November 6, 2014
Quick hit on CFP Week 2: The "jumpers"
I thought it worthwhile to say something about this week's Committee rankings for the College Football Playoff (CFP), especially as there were a couple significant "moves."
First, to those SEC lovers out there, you get a certain satisfaction in the fact that Ol' Miss's loss to Auburn "only" dropped them to #11 -- ahead of 1-loss Big 5 teams Baylor (who beat #6 TCU), Nebraska, and Ohio State (looks like a B10 diss).
However, I will repeat what I hinted at last week: I don't see a second SEC West team making the CFP with 2 losses. If the SEC champ has 2 losses (unlikely), then maybe, but there will be enough teams with 1 loss (and conference champions) to fill the field before going to a 2-loss Auburn or Alabama team (or Miss St, if they lost to Ol' Miss and Alabama).
Next, how does Arizona St jump from 14 to 9 with an overtime win at home over Utah, who this week is 17th (the 4th 2-loss team in the rankings)? I don't know. Notre Dame advocates claim it is a diss to them, which may be true, but seems irrelevant since ND can make it right where such things should be corrected -- on the field, and this weekend. ND obviously blows ASU back with a win in Tempe Saturday.
ASU's jump seems to be the Committee's gesture toward the notion that a 1-loss PAC-12 champ belonging in the CFP. It would be hard to get there from 14th place (they would be behind Ol' Miss, right?).
Next next, is KSU's jump. Again, it looks like the committee prepping for the F4 -- KSU has to be ahead of Michigan State (who they jumped) to be "next in" if they beat TCU in Ft. Worth Saturday. This keeps them from being blocked. Not sure KSU deserves that, but until we see Saturday's result, we can't determine that.
Here's what the Committee isn't doing -- projecting ahead. This week, here's my projected F4, with seedings: 1) Miss St (assume they win out and go undefeated); 2) FL State (same); 3) Oregon (win out); 4) TCU (same, assuming a win at home Saturday, their last T25 game, and on). Caveat: this assumes neither Auburn nor Alabama wins out, either of which could leave 2 1-loss (or better) SEC West teams. If one does, TCU would be in jeopardy.
It's another great week for CFB, with Mich St-Ohio St, Ala-LSU, Oregon-Utah, KSU-TCU, Baylor-OU, ND-ASU. Enjoy!
First, to those SEC lovers out there, you get a certain satisfaction in the fact that Ol' Miss's loss to Auburn "only" dropped them to #11 -- ahead of 1-loss Big 5 teams Baylor (who beat #6 TCU), Nebraska, and Ohio State (looks like a B10 diss).
However, I will repeat what I hinted at last week: I don't see a second SEC West team making the CFP with 2 losses. If the SEC champ has 2 losses (unlikely), then maybe, but there will be enough teams with 1 loss (and conference champions) to fill the field before going to a 2-loss Auburn or Alabama team (or Miss St, if they lost to Ol' Miss and Alabama).
Next, how does Arizona St jump from 14 to 9 with an overtime win at home over Utah, who this week is 17th (the 4th 2-loss team in the rankings)? I don't know. Notre Dame advocates claim it is a diss to them, which may be true, but seems irrelevant since ND can make it right where such things should be corrected -- on the field, and this weekend. ND obviously blows ASU back with a win in Tempe Saturday.
ASU's jump seems to be the Committee's gesture toward the notion that a 1-loss PAC-12 champ belonging in the CFP. It would be hard to get there from 14th place (they would be behind Ol' Miss, right?).
Next next, is KSU's jump. Again, it looks like the committee prepping for the F4 -- KSU has to be ahead of Michigan State (who they jumped) to be "next in" if they beat TCU in Ft. Worth Saturday. This keeps them from being blocked. Not sure KSU deserves that, but until we see Saturday's result, we can't determine that.
Here's what the Committee isn't doing -- projecting ahead. This week, here's my projected F4, with seedings: 1) Miss St (assume they win out and go undefeated); 2) FL State (same); 3) Oregon (win out); 4) TCU (same, assuming a win at home Saturday, their last T25 game, and on). Caveat: this assumes neither Auburn nor Alabama wins out, either of which could leave 2 1-loss (or better) SEC West teams. If one does, TCU would be in jeopardy.
It's another great week for CFB, with Mich St-Ohio St, Ala-LSU, Oregon-Utah, KSU-TCU, Baylor-OU, ND-ASU. Enjoy!
Wednesday, October 29, 2014
Ohio State in First Final Four: a Brief Case
Hello! I am back.
It's been an interesting fall, but I have been too busy to put any thoughts here.
However, the inaugural CFB Final Four announcement generated water-cooler talk that I thought needed some clarification and follow up.
The big one seems to be this (based on ESPN and especially this morning's Mike & Mike): why is Ohio State ranked so low and do they have a chance to make it to the Final Four?
I'm ignoring the first question, which is pretty irrelevant, and going to give a quick answer and analysis to the second -- which will indicate OSU CAN get into the Final Four easily enough.
I begin with this: I am not an OSU fan!
That said.
Simply: a one-loss Big Ten champion will be in the Final Four. If Ohio State wins out, there will be a spot for them. That's a big "if," but that's the short version.
Long version: they are 16th. Who's ahead of them? Let's start with the basics -- Michigan St and Nebraska are 8th and 15th and they play them. Win out and BUMP! BUMP! They are up to 14th (remember they only have to be 4th).
Now, out of their control, 4 of the top 6 are in the SEC West; they have to play each other and the winner of the division plays the SEC East winner, likely Georgia, in the SEC championship game. For simplicity, let's have Miss St (current #1) win out, including SEC championship game. Auburn (#3) also plays Georgia (#11). It is hard to imagine of those 5 teams, two end up with 1 loss. The Big Ten champ with one loss should get in ahead of a 2-loss SEC team. Move OSU up 4 slots.
Also ahead of them are 3 PAC-12 teams; they play each other, at least the Arizona's and Oregon v. one of them (or Utah) in the championship game. One of them comes out with 1-loss, joining the SEC team in final four, but knocking 2 more behind OSU.
TCU and K-State play; K-State plays Baylor. Again, only one of those will come out with 1 loss. Two more behind OSU.
If Notre Dame wins out, beating USC and Arizona St, they may block OSU (or any B10 team). But wins over MSU and Neb probably leaps the Irish, if they win out.
This scenario would put the SEC winner, Florida State, OSU, Oregon/Az/ASU, & TCU/Baylor/KSt in final four, assuming one of each of those triads wins out.
So, it's not unlikely that, IF OSU wins out, they play, maybe as high as the #2 seed.
I don't think they win out, but no one should think sitting at 16 now precludes them in any way from getting there.
My money is on Michigan St. running the table instead of the Buckeyes, and ending up ahead of both the PAC-12 and Big 12 champs.
But we are talking "Is Ohio State out of it now?" Absolutely not.
It's been an interesting fall, but I have been too busy to put any thoughts here.
However, the inaugural CFB Final Four announcement generated water-cooler talk that I thought needed some clarification and follow up.
The big one seems to be this (based on ESPN and especially this morning's Mike & Mike): why is Ohio State ranked so low and do they have a chance to make it to the Final Four?
I'm ignoring the first question, which is pretty irrelevant, and going to give a quick answer and analysis to the second -- which will indicate OSU CAN get into the Final Four easily enough.
I begin with this: I am not an OSU fan!
That said.
Simply: a one-loss Big Ten champion will be in the Final Four. If Ohio State wins out, there will be a spot for them. That's a big "if," but that's the short version.
Long version: they are 16th. Who's ahead of them? Let's start with the basics -- Michigan St and Nebraska are 8th and 15th and they play them. Win out and BUMP! BUMP! They are up to 14th (remember they only have to be 4th).
Now, out of their control, 4 of the top 6 are in the SEC West; they have to play each other and the winner of the division plays the SEC East winner, likely Georgia, in the SEC championship game. For simplicity, let's have Miss St (current #1) win out, including SEC championship game. Auburn (#3) also plays Georgia (#11). It is hard to imagine of those 5 teams, two end up with 1 loss. The Big Ten champ with one loss should get in ahead of a 2-loss SEC team. Move OSU up 4 slots.
Also ahead of them are 3 PAC-12 teams; they play each other, at least the Arizona's and Oregon v. one of them (or Utah) in the championship game. One of them comes out with 1-loss, joining the SEC team in final four, but knocking 2 more behind OSU.
TCU and K-State play; K-State plays Baylor. Again, only one of those will come out with 1 loss. Two more behind OSU.
If Notre Dame wins out, beating USC and Arizona St, they may block OSU (or any B10 team). But wins over MSU and Neb probably leaps the Irish, if they win out.
This scenario would put the SEC winner, Florida State, OSU, Oregon/Az/ASU, & TCU/Baylor/KSt in final four, assuming one of each of those triads wins out.
So, it's not unlikely that, IF OSU wins out, they play, maybe as high as the #2 seed.
I don't think they win out, but no one should think sitting at 16 now precludes them in any way from getting there.
My money is on Michigan St. running the table instead of the Buckeyes, and ending up ahead of both the PAC-12 and Big 12 champs.
But we are talking "Is Ohio State out of it now?" Absolutely not.
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